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post #1 of 20 Old 01-27-2010, 07:07 PM Thread Starter
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genesis alignment issue

my gen was pulling to the right, so got it aligned via the dealership, its still pulling to the right. i got the manufacturer alignment specs and my caster's not within manufaturer's specs

min 7.03 max 8.53 actual 6.76 left and 6.82 right

so i called up my service manager which pretty much gave me the cold shoulder i'm wondering if i should give him an ultimatum " get it within specs, or i'm going to consumer protection and they can deal with you" any advice ?
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Every Hyundai I have ever aligned the caster measurements have been lower then what the spec says. Caster will not cause a pull (unless caster split between the right and left is huge). Positive caster is what causes the steering wheel to self center. The only pulling factor is the toe and it would have to be out pretty good. You also need to keep in mind that must roads will have what is called road crown in it. It makes the road look like a hump in the road with the center of the hump in the middle of the road. It is there for rain to drain. That is the number one reason that your vehicle will go to the right due to the slope in the road. You should take your car to a road that is flat, as not all roads are flat level roads and check your alignment there. Post up all your alignment measurements too for me to look at.

Oh one other thing coupe or sedan?

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post #3 of 20 Old 01-28-2010, 04:48 AM
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^^^^+1......toe causes pull, not camber or caster. Road drift caused from crowning of the road to encourage water run-off is not the same as a pull, make sure which one is occuring on your vehicle. The caster measurements you posted (min 7.03 max 8.53 actual 6.76 left and 6.82 right) are close enough that it wouldn't bother me anyways, as long as they are both close.

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I've noticed this as well... I just tested it out in a flat parking lot and didn't have a pull either way.

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Mine pulled to the right before I switch the front tires around. Crappy setup and it should be able to track straight regardless of the crown in the road.
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Mine pulled to the right before I switch the front tires around. Crappy setup and it should be able to track straight regardless of the crown in the road.
Wrong, it will track straight on flat ground, but if you are on a tilted surface, gravity will have its effect & that effect is what is referred to as road drift.

BTW if you cross swapped your front tires & the pull went away, then that could be attributed to radial pull of the tires.

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Yes gravity works. But the GC is the worst car for driving on crowned roads I have ever had in 40 years. There is definitely something wrong with the front suspension design.

The majority of the rods around me are tertiary rural roads and very crowned. I would not expect to end up off the road within a 100ft while driving on a level Interstate though which is what the car originally did if you let go of the wheel. Unacceptable IMHO.
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Yes gravity works. But the GC is the worst car for driving on crowned roads I have ever had in 40 years. There is definitely something wrong with the front suspension design.

The majority of the rods around me are tertiary rural roads and very crowned. I would not expect to end up off the road within a 100ft while driving on a level Interstate though which is what the car originally did if you let go of the wheel. Unacceptable IMHO.
I agree 100% the suspension sucks, not the design as much as the tuning of the struts/shocks. This & the fact there are not forged internals are the 2 biggest & only real gripes I have with this car.

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No matter what the suspension or the valving if the alignment is spot on and the road is crowned it will pull no matter what car it is. I have driven plenty of them and have not seen one pull on a flat road surface yet. It is not really gravity that pulls the car to the right so much as the change in steering angles that the crown forces on the suspension. alot of you people on this forum complain about this car like you just dropped 40 k on a luxury performance car this is Hyundai's first trip in this market and they did it for under 30K and you get 10 year 100000 mile warranty on the powertrain and 5 year 60 k on EVERYTHING else I mean what more do you want? For the price group this car rocks


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I had a service tard tell me (re: Mazda3 that was pulling to the right quite noticeably on flat pavement) that manual transmission cars just do that...O and K, then.
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