Only issue with the post is the cost for amount of power. You included the cost of the powerX retune but no power increase. From rough estimates from PowerAxel they're getting 20 whp on a stock car, so bare minimum you're looking at 224hp for that $3900 and not 204hp. $2902 = 204 $3902=224hp (probably more)

I do think a safe estimate would be 30-40 whp from the retune with all the supporting mods that have already been added pre-retune. Doesn't get that much closer to 350 but i'm nitpicky like that.

I guess it wasnt "clear". As you pointed out.....I did not guess the power increase with a tune. I was stating when the tune starts you're at 204whp & $3900 and a tune is not going to pick up 146whp so making 350whp for $4000 is not going to happen.

On an Evo roughly with a tune you'll gain 30-50whp depending so you're close in your assumption I would say. That would put the car at 244-254whp. Still 100hp off as you said.

4-5k for everything you need to make 300-350whp in this car is right on. It really depends on what components you choose and it also really depends on what we find that the stock gear can take before it lets go reliably. If you buy name brand, high dollar parts then yes, 4k is no where near where you'll end up. Keep in mind that the 4k I'm talking about is buying things such as the IC piping, FMIC, injectors, bov, turbo, and some stainless pipe and doing things up yourself (i.e. "free" labor). I won't say much about prices we're currently seeing on SOME things in the aftermarket but it is sure a shock coming from the Honda community where everything is cheap. On that note, I also strongly believe that the aftermarket will be forced to become competitive in a hurry if there are tons of parts available. IF you are the sort that chooses to purchase everything from an aftermarket supplier, my recommendation is to hold out for a bit and let the market battle it out. The end result here is that you will have lots of options and for your basic bolt ons, there won't be much of a difference beyond price and looks.

IMO JRod, you guys make quality stuff that gets the job done at a reasonable price. I understand where this guy is coming from in some respects. For example, 2k for the HKS intercooler kit, or 1600 for a TBE exhaust, etc. There are some places out there that are definitely on some kind of space-case trip when it comes to pricing their stuff. It's almost like they care more about making money off their shit than actually building a customer base (which is what makes money in the long run).

The ONLY way someone MIGHT see 300-350whp for $4000-$5000 is doing EVERYTHING their own as you said.

I do not understand the comment of "I believe that the aftermarket will be forced to become competitive.". I can say our prices are set like all of the items we make for all the cars we deal. That is trying to offer the best bang for the buck. Are they over inflated? MOST DEFINITELY NO... not by any means. Is there a bit of room to offer a discount for someone buying some stuff as a "kit"? Yes and thats how we always do it.

We use quality materials, have time in R&D, dyno testing, labor building the stuff and need to keep the lights on in the shop.

Competition is welcome, but there is nothing to "battle out". This isnt a garage sale where prices are negotiable. Most places set them where they can regain SOME return on the investment and still keep the lights on for the next day.

Alot of stuff that is overlooked behind the scenes when it comes to pricing is some stuff like this:
Credit card processing fee's - 3% RIGHT off the top of EACH sale go straight to the CC processing company and NOT the vendor.
Pay the people that work at the facility for taking the sales calls / doing the internet order
Pay the people that work at the facility for fabrication of the parts
Parts R&D
Dyno time
What materials, options, quality, etc.... you're getting for your money
Hosting the website
Hours of online work daily
Advertisement
Product Materials
Shipping materials
Pay the the person doing the shipping labor

Those are parts a shop has to consider in pricing. There is a lot to consider with the pricing of a part and what it takes to get that part from a piece of metal or whatever the case may be until it gets to your door.

It seems like in the beginning that everyone was so excited about seeing well known performance shops that are known for pushing the bar on vehicles such as RMR, Buschur Racing, AMS, etc... come into the Coupe market but now as parts & pricing start to become available some folks enthusiasm has diminished because some of the parts are not "cheap".


I agree 110%. Couldnt have said it better myself.

I understand what you're saying. Everyone has their own opinion and they're welcome to it.

JRod, I just hope that you don't think I was targeting you guys! Like I've said before, I love your stuff and I think that the price is right. Totally understand the cost breakdown you put forth as well, I do that kind of analysis a lot at work myself but with exploration funds (lotta cash, lotta pressure). For Buschur being an American company with American made products, you guys do an exemplary job of keeping quality up and prices down. No hard feelings at all here man, just sharing some perspective.