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post #1 of 30 Old 01-22-2009, 04:22 PM Thread Starter
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HID conversion kits = bad

"This issue has been touched upon on the boards before, but it'll come up more often especially with people buying a base model car without HID.

I'm a big fan of HIDs, but I also cannot stand the "HID drop in" kits that are made out there. There's a lot of misinformation about them, and I've even gotten into arguments with vendors on other boards about beam patterns and cutoffs and whatnot. Simply put, a halogen housing with a xenon bulb will not light correctly. Here's a link to persue if you're interested. It explains pretty well why I'm not reluctant to call someone out if they go the cheap swap route.

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That all said, you CAN buy a proper projector housing and get a xenon bulb in place that gives a correct beam pattern and cutoff. It's expensive and most of the time requires custom work, however."

I want to thank N2OInferno for writing this, I got it from gencoupe.com

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"This issue has been touched upon on the boards before, but it'll come up more often especially with people buying a base model car without HID.

I'm a big fan of HIDs, but I also cannot stand the "HID drop in" kits that are made out there. There's a lot of misinformation about them, and I've even gotten into arguments with vendors on other boards about beam patterns and cutoffs and whatnot. Simply put, a halogen housing with a xenon bulb will not light correctly. Here's a link to persue if you're interested. It explains pretty well why I'm not reluctant to call someone out if they go the cheap swap route.

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Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

That all said, you CAN buy a proper projector housing and get a xenon bulb in place that gives a correct beam pattern and cutoff. It's expensive and most of the time requires custom work, however."
I am in 100% agreement with you here. I see these cheap ebay lights on lots of cars on the road. They can never be adjusted correctly because as mentioned the housings for halogen lights are not made for HID lights. I'm afraid the Xenon HID "kits" is just another one of those "ricer" type mods that is made worse by direct-from-China dropped shipped Ebay auctions.
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yeah, when i bought my old nissan, the guy before me did the HID upgrade to the stock housing. I always got complaints about my headlights being too bright from my friends and it kinda seemed brighter than stock but i think its just because the halogen housings just shoot light all over instead of focusing it. My beemer has OEM HIDs and they are so darn bright but its because of the projector. I'll be paying extra just to get the HIDs on my Gen Coupe!

HID = good, Glare = bad

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yeah, when i bought my old nissan, the guy before me did the HID upgrade to the stock housing. I always got complaints about my headlights being too bright from my friends and it kinda seemed brighter than stock but i think its just because the halogen housings just shoot light all over instead of focusing it. My beemer has OEM HIDs and they are so darn bright but its because of the projector. I'll be paying extra just to get the HIDs on my Gen Coupe!

HID = good, Glare = bad
Get the upper level GenCoupes & they are standard, but base & R-Spec look like have to pay extra...LoL

Dude, you own a bimmer & still spell it beemer...LoL

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Get the upper level GenCoupes & they are standard, but base & R-Spec look like have to pay extra...LoL

Dude, you own a bimmer & still spell it beemer...LoL
Yeah I was leaning towards the base coupe but it would be nice to have the bigger brakes and suspension upgrade of the Track. The HID would be nice too. I'm just waiting on pricing details.
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Get the upper level GenCoupes & they are standard, but base & R-Spec look like have to pay extra...LoL

Dude, you own a bimmer & still spell it beemer...LoL
haha I never refer to my car as a bimmer in real life, but my friends all say 'lets ride in the beeeeemer' lol I prefer BM dub

I got my brochure from my hyundai guy in salisbury and I see all the options for the 2.0T Track but the only one im focused on is the HID lighting. I will probably be upgrading some of those things on the list anyway so I may just wait until the dealership can start ordering the car and parts and see how much the lights would be separately. They cant be as much as they were going to be from BMW

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well i need hid's on my cars i got used to them after me old evo came with them and now my current one has factory hid's

well a friend of mine got the base evo with no hids or fog lights. and after him getting used to riding in my car he complained about his weenie lights and decided to convert his evo to have hid's well he got some hit from some shop that i never heard of. but after he installed them they where on the more whiter side of the ligh spectrum while my factory lights where blue-er then his.

but where im getting at is that his light incorperated the facter verticle block off plate and his stock housing...
and as i came to find out the housing and verticle blocking plate on an evo with factory hid's and normal lights are the same!

i think now more newer cars are coming with the same or similar/interchangable housing for both lighting options....i believe rx-8's are the other car that can do this along with skylines and a few others out there. its becoming a more common practice.

i do remember when hids started to pop up everywhere and cars came with 2 head light options and some people just went cheap and popped the hid into there normal bulb housing and blind everyone from 3 miles away and the bulbs would be cock eyed or too blue or too white or even purple lol.

anywho im not trying to go against the grain of the thread but just posting a success story on it. and also if hyundai will follow the same trend for the gen coupe then maybe some proper hid options will be able to be swapped in there. as far as most cars made before 02 i know theyre screwed!
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bam, that's great if they do use the same housing for both lamp styles. It will cut the cost of the DIY way down. But, if not, HIDs are one area I'm not willing to cut corners or give up on. I'll just spend the extra bread...LoL

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ya i really wanted to do the base model with upgraded options like brembos and hid and lsd but if i have to splurge on the track model for that well then i gotta do what i gotta do as long as i put my 5-8k down and the payments are at least in the 1 hundreds i think i can do work with that lol.....

if not then ill be one of the first to own a used genesis coupe track model lol......even though i really would have liked this to be my first new car all my cars even my evo's have been used with just 3-4k miles on then and they had there own little problems from previous owners :-(
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bam, that's great if they do use the same housing for both lamp styles. It will cut the cost of the DIY way down. But, if not, HIDs are one area I'm not willing to cut corners or give up on. I'll just spend the extra bread...LoL
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I will not buy an aftermarket HID ever again.

Owned them for 10 years on various cars, and I think I spent more time replacing bulbs and entire units then having it in my actual car. These were for kits that ranged from cheaping out, to getting $600 kits, with full lifetime warranties.

So far my HID kit on my GC is working fine!

The difference between HID and halogen is night and day though
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