The World Engine: The Truths and Myths

Tufast · #11 02-13-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OHGENESIS

it wasnt ment to be a jab at you. i was just curious because i know how things can be customers/techs/mngrs. etc.

I'm sorry, I didn't know I came off sounding defensive...

Yeah, I'm always interested in anything Genesis....It's like a cult or something for me....I know, sounds f****d up....

Dude, I just noticed, I modified your post...LoL...Sorry again...sabba gave me all these new buttons to play with & I guess with it comes responsibility. I'll have to pay better attention to what I'm doing...LoL....I put it back like it was

OHGENESIS · #12 02-14-2009, 04:51 AM

its cool i understand. i was trying to give ya credit for doin a great job without sounding like a butt kisser.

hated · #13 07-28-2009, 01:26 AM

Does this mean to increase displacement to 2.4L, I can order a crank, rods, and pistons from an Chrysler and just drop the stuff in?

dboz1 · #14 07-28-2009, 05:37 AM

I could be wrong here, but I do not think that parts are inter changeable. I know for sure that the EVO X guts do not work.

Tufast · #15 07-28-2009, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dboz1

I could be wrong here, but I do not think that parts are inter changeable. I know for sure that the EVO X guts do not work.

+1....everything discovered thus far indicates that the Hyundai engine will not accept Evo or SRT4 internals,

BUT, check this out: Realtune Gencoupe stock turbo : 215whp/230wtrq

check out what's in bolt & underlined....
Aaron@Realtune quote "Did this awhile ago and just getting around to posting about it.

Mods :

Aeroforce scan gauge
Realtune Boost kit
Realtune Overboost eliminator
The rest of the car is stock down to the air box

Dyno graph coming tomorrow. Being the genius I am, I left the graph at the shop.

Total stock like drive-ability with a massive kick in the pants past 4300rpm

This is about all we are going to try and due with the stock turbo. Tubular manifold and stroker motor are in the works."

hated · #16 07-28-2009, 11:00 AM

I'm confused, same short block itself, but the internals are not interchangealbe? How is that possible if the block itself is the same for all three?

Tufast · #17 07-28-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hated

I'm confused, same short block itself, but the internals are not interchangealbe? How is that possible if the block itself is the same for all three?

The block is not identical, but slightly varied of the original design all 3 came up with.

06white350 · #18 08-13-2009, 03:47 PM

I believe it said the block is the same, but the sleeves/crank are different.

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The engine is modular in design and displacement is adaptable through change of stroke and piston sleeves. Comes in three displacements 1.8, 2.0 and 2.4.

Does this mean the entire long blocks themselves can be swapped out? IE Evo 4b into a Gen? I know when Ford(lol) uses the word modular that means each of those motors can be a direct drop in to each car with a modular motor... If that made any sense lol.

Does anyone have the bore/stroke in MM for the Gen 4b? I didn't see it.

Gates311: Evo X Reliability - evolutionm.net

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For the past two seasons I've been racing my car all over the US, starting with a brand new car to where it sits today, a 500+whp, 2,850lb. track car. The car has seen many changes...suspension, turbos, fuel type, weight, etc. But the one thing that's remained is the stock Mitsubishi 4B11T engine. It's been extremely resilient, even after 8,750 track miles it's not showing any signs of fatigue. That says alot about the new engine and it's design...

Yes a full evo long block swap is expensive, but parts seem to be more readily available. Has anyone tried/done this yet?

Tufast · #19 08-17-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 06white350

I believe it said the block is the same, but the sleeves/crank are different.

Does this mean the entire long blocks themselves can be swapped out? IE Evo 4b into a Gen? I know when Ford(lol) uses the word modular that means each of those motors can be a direct drop in to each car with a modular motor... If that made any sense lol.

Does anyone have the bore/stroke in MM for the Gen 4b? I didn't see it.

Gates311: Evo X Reliability - evolutionm.net

Yes a full evo long block swap is expensive, but parts seem to be more readily available. Has anyone tried/done this yet?

The blocks are modular design, but the GenCoupe has an open deck where as the Evo has a semi-closed deck. To achieve big #s, the GenCoupe would definately have to be sleeved.

The Evo & GenCoupe engines still may prove be a difficult swap, since modular design doesn't necessarily mean the motor mts will be in the exact same location. Also, one is RWD vs AWD for the other, which may complicate things. I'm not saying that these factors will make a difference, only that they could.

Here are the bore & stroke for both Hyundai engines:
86mm bore, 86mm stroke for the 2.0t
96mm bore, 87mm stroke for the V6

I haven't seen or heard of a GenCoupe w/an Evo engine swap as of yet. But to be honest, for that kind of money, block sleeving could be done to accompany the mods to get this engine into the heavy hitter category.

But if you are considering that kind of power, the Lambda RS should be your engine of choice, as Rhys Millen has proven that the 3.8L can easily pump out 500whp & tq on factory internals....

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