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Cool thanks Tufast, nice post with good info..
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Cool thanks Tufast, nice post with good info..
Your welcome, here's some other links for suspension info.

Handling and Cornering Improvment Guide - Tech - Sport Compact Car Magazine
Suspension Tuning Negative Camber - Sport Compact Car Magazine
Suspension Tech - Sport Compact Car Magazine
Suspension Geometry - Sport Compact Car Magazine
Dampers Guide - Sport Compact Car Magazine
Monotube Dampers - Sport Compact Car Magazine

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Can any of the electronic ride control packages shown on page 4 of the ECM article be adapted for the GC? Specifically the Bilstein setup. I'm finding the poor condition of the roads where I live to be a constant annoyance with the OEM setup, so I'm looking into more comfortable packages. Ideally, one that also has a firmer, sport mode for when I'm on better road.

The writeup for the Bilsteins describes my problem perfectly:
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Ever wish for a suspension with a dual personality? One that's comfortable for everyday driving yet, in a fraction of a second, has the ability to tackle whatever is around the next corner? For lucky late-model BMW 3 and 5 Series owners, Bilstein has released Ridecontrol: electronically controlled shocks which do just that.
However, these ones likely won't fit a GC.

So, are there any similar products that will fit? Since ride comfort and high-speed stability are really my only problems with the car, price is no object up to about $10K.

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Can any of the electronic ride control packages shown on page 4 of the ECM article be adapted for the GC? Specifically the Bilstein setup. I'm finding the poor condition of the roads where I live to be a constant annoyance with the OEM setup, so I'm looking into more comfortable packages. Ideally, one that also has a firmer, sport mode for when I'm on better road.

The writeup for the Bilsteins describes my problem perfectly: However, these ones likely won't fit a GC.

So, are there any similar products that will fit? Since ride comfort and high-speed stability are really my only problems with the car, price is no object up to about $10K.
I'm glad price is not a factor, because a system where you can touch a button & change ride is not cheap. Problem is you have to wait for a suspension manufacturer to produce one for this particular car's setup & they will not do that unless they think they can sell a bunch of them. In other words, it may take a while for it to become available for the GenCoupe.

Now since you don't have a problem spending the money to get exactly what you want (sounds like someone else I know...LoL), you can have a one off custom suspension job done on your vehicle. Find a reputable suspension shop that really knows what they are doing, show them a wod of cash & give them some, be willilg to leave your car for a while for initial measurements & testing, wait a long time for R&D, finally have parts installed & retested while on car, then removed again for final adjustments, return with balance of monies owed & have parts reinstalled & finalized.

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I'm glad price is not a factor, because a system where you can touch a button & change ride is not cheap. Problem is you have to wait for a suspension manufacturer to produce one for this particular car's setup & they will not do that unless they think they can sell a bunch of them. In other words, it may take a while for it to become available for the GenCoupe.

Now since you don't have a problem spending the money to get exactly what you want (sounds like someone else I know...LoL), you can have a one off custom suspension job done on your vehicle. Find a reputable suspension shop that really knows what they are doing, show them a wod of cash & give them some, be willilg to leave your car for a while for initial measurements & testing, wait a long time for R&D, finally have parts installed & retested while on car, then removed again for final adjustments, return with balance of monies owed & have parts reinstalled & finalized.
Yeah, +1 on what he said. This would be crazy expensive I'd say. My dad's new Lexus GS has this kidn of setup on his car. It's pretty nifty actually, but stiffer is more comfortable to me.

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that seems to be a good artical for those not to familier with suspension.... But i have to disagree the there explanation of MacPherson strut, I did scim thru the artical so maybe i missed it.... but what i read seems to describing a Coilover supension and not a MacPherson Strut.... the main differences is that a Coilover does not have the steering compents built into the strut.... meaning when you turn the wheels of a car equiped with MacPherson Struts, the entire Strut assembly will pivot with the wheel.... (this is what i was told in tech school told to us by an engineer visiting from Ford..... I also found what appears to the be orginal Patent... #3279782 in the first colum it states "a vehicle spring system in which the supports for the axles of the STEERED wheels are CONNECTED to the lower portion of the shock absorber........")

this link should bring you to the Patent SPRING SYSTEM FOR VEHICLES - Google Patent Search

i also have to disagree with there statement of the MacPherson Strut being a good design.... frankly its not, the typicla "A" frame is still used by almost all high end cars and race cars (note they will still use a coil-over for there shocks and springs)

this link should show the top view of a concept indy car, note the mountling linkage of the front wheels forms a shape simalier to an "A" ...IndyCar 2012 - IndyCar.com
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Thanks for the insight m3proto & welcome to the site. I'm not real knowledgeable regarding suspension detail & like most others on here, welcome those that are in the know to enlighten us. To be honest I just know a little bit about alot of car topics, but not alot about any particular area.

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